It wasn’t enough for Ellen to kiss Howard Stern, so she devised a new strategy. Stern suggested to Ellen on his weekly SiriusXM radio show that she break out of her nice lady persona. If I were Ellen, I’d do exactly what you said I’d do.” My entire public image would be transformed.”
He suggested that she try being a mean son of a gun and getting in the faces of her guests. In this case, Ellen ignored his advice and ignored him.